I stumbled across this article just this morning: The Great 2020 Dyeing Fade Test. It consists of comparisons of lightfastness between different dyes on linen, wool and silk, with illustrations of what the dyed fabrics look like after different periods of sun exposure. By the end of the year, the wools were reduced to drab pastels. Interestingly, the linens all became different hues of off-white - except for linen dyed with indigo, which faded somewhat but was still a nice old denim color by the end.
While I don't expect anyone to take up this suggestion, it would be interesting to see a member of Xerxes' army at Plataia next year wearing clothes dingy, sunbleached and patched after a hard year of campaigning.
A guide to the Achaemenid Persian empire for reenactors, focusing on the Graeco-Persian Wars period. A quick guide to Persian history, society, religion, military, clothing and culture, plus links to reenactment groups and commemorations of the 2,500th anniversary of the Graeco-Persian Wars.
Showing posts with label dye. Show all posts
Showing posts with label dye. Show all posts
Saturday, October 23, 2021
Dye-fading tests by Elysse Meredith
Monday, July 15, 2019
Cold-dyeing with madder root, part III and last
On July 3 I put the chamois in the dyebath with several rocks to keep it all underwater. After just over a day, it was already showing heavy, but uneven, staining.
I took it out, swished it around and rearranged it every day for the next four days, toward the end of which it seemed not to be taking on any more color. After that, fears that it may have eventually started to putrefy drove me to take it out. The initial plan was to let it dry, rinse out any unfixed dye and bits of madder root, and put it back in the bath if the color wasn't satisfactory.
I rinsed in about half a dozen laundry room sinkfuls of cold water without soap or detergent (per the advice of RAT members). After several rinses, the color of the water began to redden less, but lots of leather fibers started slipping.
Both after the initial dyebath and after the rinsing, I pressed as much water as I could out of the leather, then draped it over a box fan on low to dry, kneading and rearranging it every half hour to keep it soft.
The finished chamois is noticeably lighter and duller than before rinsing, though not quite as bad as it looks here (it actually has a bit more yellow than you see). Interestingly it seems that most of the slipped fibers during the rinse came from the shaggier side, which I take to be the flesh side. It's now much smoother and more washed-out in color than the shorter-napped side pictured above.
So, success? Well, for a given measure. The leather is certainly red. It's just not as rich or as even in color as we've come to expect. For all I know, this could just be what madder-red leather looked like in ancient times, but maybe there are factors that would result in a better color, such as larger vats or more frequent stirring.
One last note: The plastic bucket I used was also stained. I wonder, if I use it for future dyeing projects with other colors, will they pick up some pink from this one?
I took it out, swished it around and rearranged it every day for the next four days, toward the end of which it seemed not to be taking on any more color. After that, fears that it may have eventually started to putrefy drove me to take it out. The initial plan was to let it dry, rinse out any unfixed dye and bits of madder root, and put it back in the bath if the color wasn't satisfactory.
The chamois after drying but before rinsing.
I rinsed in about half a dozen laundry room sinkfuls of cold water without soap or detergent (per the advice of RAT members). After several rinses, the color of the water began to redden less, but lots of leather fibers started slipping.
Both after the initial dyebath and after the rinsing, I pressed as much water as I could out of the leather, then draped it over a box fan on low to dry, kneading and rearranging it every half hour to keep it soft.
The finished chamois is noticeably lighter and duller than before rinsing, though not quite as bad as it looks here (it actually has a bit more yellow than you see). Interestingly it seems that most of the slipped fibers during the rinse came from the shaggier side, which I take to be the flesh side. It's now much smoother and more washed-out in color than the shorter-napped side pictured above.
So, success? Well, for a given measure. The leather is certainly red. It's just not as rich or as even in color as we've come to expect. For all I know, this could just be what madder-red leather looked like in ancient times, but maybe there are factors that would result in a better color, such as larger vats or more frequent stirring.
One last note: The plastic bucket I used was also stained. I wonder, if I use it for future dyeing projects with other colors, will they pick up some pink from this one?
Thursday, June 27, 2019
Cold-dyeing leather with madder root, part II
After soaking the chamois in mordant solution for 24 hours, I drained it, pressed it, and spread it out to dry in the sun today. It'll remain dry until the dyebath is ready to use.
I'm a little concerned about what the soak might have done to it, since the water had turned faintly chamois-colored. Did the alum and/or the cream of tartar attack the aldehydes, liberating some of the fish oil? I'll have to knead it once it's dry and see whether it's turned rawhide-ish.
Yesterday meanwhiles, I started getting the dyebath ready to use. I'm using the recipe and numbers from Wild Colours. Luckily I had a manygallon bucket on hand as well as a jar of calcium carbonate I bought for use as a white paint pigment last year.
Although the numbers call for using a 1:1 ratio of madder to fiber by weight, I used the entire 100 grams of madder for 71 grams of leather because I can't be bothered and what am I going to do with 29 grams of madder anyway?
I put the powder in the bucket, poured eight quarts of water over it, sprinkled on the calcium and stirred it all up with my hand in a rubber glove. Then I covered it in Saran wrap and set it on the back porch, with another plastic bag tautly pulled over the top of the bucket to prevent rain from filling it up. (In hindsight, another sheet of plastic wrap would probably work better for this purpose.) It will sit for four days to a week and then the leather will soak in it for four days to a week. So, next update in about two weeks.
I'm a little concerned about what the soak might have done to it, since the water had turned faintly chamois-colored. Did the alum and/or the cream of tartar attack the aldehydes, liberating some of the fish oil? I'll have to knead it once it's dry and see whether it's turned rawhide-ish.
Yesterday meanwhiles, I started getting the dyebath ready to use. I'm using the recipe and numbers from Wild Colours. Luckily I had a manygallon bucket on hand as well as a jar of calcium carbonate I bought for use as a white paint pigment last year.
Although the numbers call for using a 1:1 ratio of madder to fiber by weight, I used the entire 100 grams of madder for 71 grams of leather because I can't be bothered and what am I going to do with 29 grams of madder anyway?
I put the powder in the bucket, poured eight quarts of water over it, sprinkled on the calcium and stirred it all up with my hand in a rubber glove. Then I covered it in Saran wrap and set it on the back porch, with another plastic bag tautly pulled over the top of the bucket to prevent rain from filling it up. (In hindsight, another sheet of plastic wrap would probably work better for this purpose.) It will sit for four days to a week and then the leather will soak in it for four days to a week. So, next update in about two weeks.
Wednesday, June 26, 2019
Cold-dyeing leather with madder root, part I
I plan on an all-new akinakes and scabbard for Plataea 2021. My previous designs have used acrylic paints on the leather scabbard or leather facing. Since I'm hoping to eliminate as much non-period materials as possible this time around, and I never figured out how to make a water-resistant paint for leather, my current aim is just to use a dyed red leather facing and maybe a bronze applique.
The trouble with dyeing leather is that the equivalent processes for fabric usually involve simmering them in water with mordants and dyes, but simmering leather invariably causes it to shrink and harden. To work around that, I'm attempting both the mordanting and dyeing processes "cold" (which is to say, not hot enough to cause the leather's collagen protein fibers to coil up, which is what causes shrinkage and hardening).
Cold-mordanting is not unheard-of, as Sea Green and Sapphire describes. Heat merely speeds up the process, but if you leave the fiber to soak overnight, you really only need enough heat to dissolve the mordants. For me, all this is theoretical, and Heidi is speaking of wool, not leather, so we'll see whether it holds true in my situation. It's my understanding that mordants for wool will work on leather, since both are proteins.
I'm using aluminum sulfate, which providence caused me to buy a pound of back when Allegheny Art was still operating in my town. I have most of that left. Ancient Mesopotamian records often mention alum and madder in association with leather, so we know this is a period-appropriate method. Cream of tartar is, of course, readily available in grocery stores, and people should have at least been familiar with it in the Achaemenid period, since it readily precipitates out of fermenting grape wine. Admittedly I don't know whether it was used to assist in mordanting at that time, but I'm willing to admit it as a plausibility.
The chamois leather in this attempt is from the nearby Ace Hardware. It's also sold at Pep Boys, Home Depot, and probably other large auto supply and hardware stores. Chamois, as I've noted before, is a type of fat-cured leather; the only difference between it and braintan is that the fish oil in chamois generates its own aldehydes as it oxidizes, so it doesn't need smoking to introduce them. Thus, the fat is already permanently bound to the collagen, so wet chamois can be allowed to dry without kneading and will be easy to re-soften.
After cutting off some snippets for last year's casein paint experiment, I was left with 2.5 ounces of chamois. Using the ratios from Botanical Colors, I came up with measurements of 14 grams of alum (just under a tablespoon) and 4 grams of cream of tartar (just under a teaspoon). I dissolved both in Pyrex cups of hot water. Interestingly the cream of tartar didn't seem to want to fully dissolve; around an eighth of a teaspoon of powder coalesced at the bottom of the cup no matter how many times I swirled it.
I dumped it all in a sink with warm tap water, added the chamois and kneaded it until it was thoroughly wet. Tomorrow it gets hung out to dry, and with any luck we'll have some good weather ahead for the next stage.
The trouble with dyeing leather is that the equivalent processes for fabric usually involve simmering them in water with mordants and dyes, but simmering leather invariably causes it to shrink and harden. To work around that, I'm attempting both the mordanting and dyeing processes "cold" (which is to say, not hot enough to cause the leather's collagen protein fibers to coil up, which is what causes shrinkage and hardening).
Cold-mordanting is not unheard-of, as Sea Green and Sapphire describes. Heat merely speeds up the process, but if you leave the fiber to soak overnight, you really only need enough heat to dissolve the mordants. For me, all this is theoretical, and Heidi is speaking of wool, not leather, so we'll see whether it holds true in my situation. It's my understanding that mordants for wool will work on leather, since both are proteins.
I'm using aluminum sulfate, which providence caused me to buy a pound of back when Allegheny Art was still operating in my town. I have most of that left. Ancient Mesopotamian records often mention alum and madder in association with leather, so we know this is a period-appropriate method. Cream of tartar is, of course, readily available in grocery stores, and people should have at least been familiar with it in the Achaemenid period, since it readily precipitates out of fermenting grape wine. Admittedly I don't know whether it was used to assist in mordanting at that time, but I'm willing to admit it as a plausibility.
The chamois leather in this attempt is from the nearby Ace Hardware. It's also sold at Pep Boys, Home Depot, and probably other large auto supply and hardware stores. Chamois, as I've noted before, is a type of fat-cured leather; the only difference between it and braintan is that the fish oil in chamois generates its own aldehydes as it oxidizes, so it doesn't need smoking to introduce them. Thus, the fat is already permanently bound to the collagen, so wet chamois can be allowed to dry without kneading and will be easy to re-soften.
After cutting off some snippets for last year's casein paint experiment, I was left with 2.5 ounces of chamois. Using the ratios from Botanical Colors, I came up with measurements of 14 grams of alum (just under a tablespoon) and 4 grams of cream of tartar (just under a teaspoon). I dissolved both in Pyrex cups of hot water. Interestingly the cream of tartar didn't seem to want to fully dissolve; around an eighth of a teaspoon of powder coalesced at the bottom of the cup no matter how many times I swirled it.
I dumped it all in a sink with warm tap water, added the chamois and kneaded it until it was thoroughly wet. Tomorrow it gets hung out to dry, and with any luck we'll have some good weather ahead for the next stage.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014
"A Lytell Dye Boke"
Drea Leed of Elizabethan Costume tests historical dye recipes. Worth a look even if your group doesn't require naturally-dyed fabrics (XMFM does not) for insight on what historical at least looks like. Linen seems to take dye much less readily than wool, so madder linen is a dusty pink instead of a deep or rusty red, and indigo linen tends to be baby blue rather than anything approaching the deep steel blue associated with the name "indigo."
Saturday, February 1, 2014
Madder-dyed leather
To give you an example of what results a period leather dye might produce, a recent thread at RAT alerted me of several items Martin Moser made and dyed with genuine madder.
Vindolanda Calceus
Drawstring Bag
As you can see, it's a bit rusty rather than pure, deep red. The leather is alum-tawed so presumably it would have been a light color to begin with. Possibly leather that starts off brown, like a fat-cured hide that's been heavily smoked, will produce a somewhat deeper (albeit brownish) color.
Vindolanda Calceus
Drawstring Bag
As you can see, it's a bit rusty rather than pure, deep red. The leather is alum-tawed so presumably it would have been a light color to begin with. Possibly leather that starts off brown, like a fat-cured hide that's been heavily smoked, will produce a somewhat deeper (albeit brownish) color.
Wednesday, July 3, 2013
Fabric dyeing on Orientalism and the Age of Steam
So part four of the "Lady of Susa" series is up, and, wow, I don't think I have the patience or energy needed to carry out something like this, but kudos.
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